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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:57 pm
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| Kath, you'll have to share! I love you too, Mock!!! We have a lot of Monty Python on DVD, but that sketch isn't among them. If you ever want to leave home and come to British Columbia please consider this house as at least a temporary base!!!
Dom's re-assigned role did have a chance to be used.
And there are two ghosts and a traitor who will only find out their roles when/if they are killed, so your role may be villager at the moment but who knows...
Well, I do, obviously 
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Weaseldale
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:34 pm
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| I wonder what the role was... I know it was kinda decided here that it was the seer, but realistically it could still be a lot of things. The seer or the fooled seer potentially, but also the mercenary or guardian considering that there were no wolf kills and a mercenary kill...
The only one I'm even kind of okay with a wolf getting would be the fooled seer... and even then they could eventually lead the vengeful ghost astray. There are seven actual people in the game, so that means... what? a 40ish percent chance of the role going to a wolf? And even higher if someone was turned last night phase. Especially if I take myself out of the equation since I didn't get it. Then it's even more likely a wolf just got a useful role .-.
Should we go ahead and start voting? I'm not good at starting discussion.
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Juneberry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:24 pm
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| Mock wrote: |
| We have lost our Idiot. We are Idiot-less. Who will step up and play this vital role in village life? |
I'll happily take that role or throw it at my father. We both have enough idiocy to fill the role and then some.
By the way, I'm gonna guess the wolves didn't eat the pizza boy. Reason being that I got pizza last night just fine. 
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kitarun deluin
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:41 pm
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| Weaseldale wrote: |
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The only one I'm even kind of okay with a wolf getting would be the fooled seer... and even then they could eventually lead the vengeful ghost astray. |
But if a wolf got the fooled seer, then that could lead to them making a villager be killed... Why would you be okay with that, Weaseldale? Unless you're a wolf in disguise?
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Weaseldale
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:43 pm
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| I can make absolutely no sense of what you just said... could you maybe explain it? ._.
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KathiraNarae
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:58 pm
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| June, the wolves definately ate the pizza boy, it was just AFTER you got your pizza delivered. Sly and Dom took the chance while the pizza boy was being nommed to escape the other side of the village.
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kitarun deluin
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:02 pm
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| you said you'd be okay with a wolf getting the fooled seer. If a wolf had the fooled seer on one of their other accounts, they'd likely use the seer to lead the vengeful ghost astray, by pointing the ghost to one of the villagers instead of a wolf. Meaning the ghost would likely kill a villager.
Why would you be okay with a wolf getting the fooled seer, when they could make a ghost kill a villager, unless you- or one of your mules- are a wolf?
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Weaseldale
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:11 pm
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| The only one I'm even kind of okay with a wolf getting would be the fooled seer... and even then they could eventually lead the vengeful ghost astray. |
So this is what I said, yeah? Note the last part where I say "even then... ghost astray." It's acknowledging that I don't want them to do so. That I think it's bad. Reading.
Also, "even kind of okay with" implies that I am not okay with it. But if they have to get a role I'd prefer it to be this one.
Firstly, the ghost has to die for them to be able to influence, which isn't a certainty.
Secondly, the ghost doesn't have to listen to the fooled seer, since they /know/ it's the fooled seer and doesn't have any relevant psychic information. The ghost can still /read/ what happens in the thread and form their own conclusion.
Lastly, if the traitor hasn't been turned yet, the wolves could to use the fooled seer role in an attempt to find them, because the traitor shows up as a wolf. However, since they don't know they are the fooled seer, they would just see a villager.
If they got the seer they could actually see everyone's roles. Not good.
If they got the mercenary they could potentially kill two villagers a night. Not good.
If they got the guardian, they could waste the role and the villagers lose valuable potential protection. Also, GM, can the guardian protect against mercenary kills? If so, they can protect themselves from the mercenary. Not good.
Make sense?
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kitarun deluin
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:30 pm
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| Wow. You've really got this all figured out...
but... if a wolf got the fooled seer, the ghost would know it wasn't the real seer.
The fooled seer could then give the ghost the name of a real wolf, to throw the ghost off track, couldn't they? Knowing the ghost wouldn't believe them...
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Weaseldale
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:44 pm
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| The ghost still has to be in play for that. Once the ghost is in play there is a 50% each night both they and the fooled seer will find out that they aren't the real seer.
The ghost wouldn't know whether or not the fooled seer also had a wolf (or any other) role, though.
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Uni has swallowed me whole, in more ways than one, sorry guys. Feel free to PM any questions (or nonquestions {or anything else, no limits here}) you have, although I don't know when I'll get to them since I'm barely on atm. |
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KathiraNarae
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:59 pm
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| As the one who put the merc and guardian into this game, I can field this one. The Guardian only protects against wolf attack, not Vengeful Ghost or Mercenary attacks.
You've got to consider what uses the wolf/other role player would have for those roles. Yes, they could use the abilities granted by the second role to help the wolves, but they could also use the knowledge gained from being a wolf to help the villagers. And remember that the merc is only looking out for themselves and only needs to survive to the end. A wolf/merc could easily use the wolf to protect the merc, then use the wolf knowledge to throw the wolves under the bus, should it become necessary.
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korrinn torrinkos
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:00 pm
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| The ghost would know about the seer already, wouldn't they? Since only the fooled seer can 'contact' them?
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Juneberry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:06 pm
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| I am so confused right now I can't even begin to process this...
I think I'll just focus on hunting wolves.
I'm starting to dislike how many different roles there are. It's getting too confusing, and I already have a migraine today xD
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KathiraNarae
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:09 pm
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| Part of the reason for the enormous amount of roles is that we've got a huge number of villagers in general, and I wanted an excuse to put in the Guardian, Mercenary, and Alpha Wolf. I was going to GM the next game with no mules but as many of the roles as possible, which may well be easier to work with. It depends.
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Juneberry
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:11 pm
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| I can imagine a random game where everyone has a role in the village.
Also, dear Mercenary-san: Thank you for not killing me
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