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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:20 pm
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| Amen Dr. So very true. It is our right not only our god given rights but our constaturional rights we have here in america. I am sick of these extreme pros and antis when it comes down to it it is all on us, we either live wondering what if or live thinking i wasnt ready. Pro choice. i believe people should stop telling others "thats wrong" "thats murder" leave it be with people, no one shares the same veiws, no one ever will. Life isnt paradise and everything we do makes us who we are. If someone disagrees with a woman getting an abortion, ok but dont try saying she is going to hell or whatever cause of it. . .
life is what we choose to make of it, and im sorry i would rather a teenage girl who made a mistake and doesnt want the baby to do what she wants, cause when it is no longer the MOTHERS choice. then what choice is there? I for one dont want people little less the government telling me what i can and cannot do. I got a book for everyone to read. Aldus huxley Brave new world. nothing to do with abortion but population.
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:23 pm
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| Some more stuff for people to think on:
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U.S.;: Defying Stereotypes on Abortion
June 25, 2006 Baltimore Sun
The profile on the average woman who seeks abortion, drawn from abortion statistics collected by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, contradicts a lot of assumptions out there about the woman who seeks an abortion. She is a mom, in her 20s, she's attended college, earns a manageable living and is either living with the father or in a long-term relationship with him and has a child. She is not someone's careless teenage daughter.
It is surprising that a woman who has given birth would find herself back in this position.
It is educated women in their 20s who are having most abortions.
And while abortion rates have been decreasing for all women there have been only small declines in the rates for women in their 20s.
There were 1.3 million abortions in 2000, one abortion for every three births.
But 70% were to women in their 20s and early 30s. 80% (of that 70%) were to unmarried women, but only 25% to women living in poverty.
She is almost as likely to be white 4% as she is to be a member of a minority.
60% of abortions are to women who have one child.
Though they make the decision not to give birth to another child they don't take the necessary steps to prevent pregnancy.
The idea that abortion is driven by a careless approach to life is not necessarily true. Many of these women believe that this is the responsible choice. rw |
And for people who try to push their religion on others and say that abortion goes against the bible (as though that will persuade non-religious women to anything other than more intolerance towards religions)
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Why Abortion is Biblical - From a Christian View
October 2010
By Brian Elroy McKinley
How anti-abortion activists misrepresent the biblical record
People don't take time to read their own Bibles.This website talks about the few biblical verses that anti-abortionists cite to demonstrate that abortion is murder. But there are others that would seem to make the case for abortion.
This is one of the verses commonly cited to support the stance the abortion is murder: "For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother's womb. I will give thanks to Thee, for Thou art fearfully wonderful (later texts were changed to read "for I am fearfully and wonderfully made"); wonderful are Thy works, and my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from Thee, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance; and in Thy book they were all written, the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them." Psalm 139:13-16
But the Bible also says this:
"And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." Exodus 21:22-25
In Leviticus 27:6 a monetary value was placed on children, but not until they reached one month old (any younger had no value). Likewise, in Numbers 3:15 a census was commanded, but the Jews were told only to count those one month old and above - anything less, particularly a fetus, was not counted as a human person. In Ezekiel 37:8-10 we watch as God re-animates dead bones into living soldiers, but the passage makes the interesting note that they were not alive as persons until their first breath. Likewise, in Genesis 2:7, Adam had a human form and a vibrant new body but he only becomes a fully-alive human person after God makes him breathe.
Making a judgment against people in God's name, when God is not behind the judging, is nothing short of claiming that our own beliefs are more important than God's. |
A good website to look through (with both anti and pro-abortion articles): http://www.overpopulation.org/abortion.html
Ah, and to support my previous claim of over-population, with an article that I'm sure everyone can relate to: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/07/06/notes070611.DTL&nl=fix
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