Just what the HELL is wrong with gay people?

[The Emo Duck]

I just did a debate on this...

Right now they have DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act); which gives states the right to not recognize same sex marriages from other states. It also give a federal definition for marriage and spouse.
Marriage: the legal union between a man and a woman as husband and wife.
Spouse: One person of the opposite sex who is a husband or wife.

It's been in act since '96 and since then 41 states have added their variations of DOMA to their state constitutions.

I don't agree with any of this. Love is love; you should be able to marry someone if you love them. It's not right that they can't visit each other in the hospital or take sick leave to take care of the other or have shared health care.

[killerkitty]

It's so stupid, this whole thing about hating gays, what's the problem? Love has no preferences. People should really just learn to accept the way gays are and live with it, instead of making such a fuss about it. It's horrible how some people hate them so much.

[saiyouri]

I really hate people who want to take gay rights away. I think everyone deserves to be treated the same and have all the same rights for each other no matter what. We all be treated equal. But they don't really have any. But thankfully where my husband works, they started a new thing. A couple months ago they posted a notice at work that for now on any loverr or special person in someones life is now covered by their insurance and get benefits as well from them too. So that covers gays and people who are not married but are living together, which is something really nice. They have rights there somewhat, but it is a improvement and it is a start. We need to start somewhere.

[ecco]

im glad to hear that - its also an improvement for straight couples who dont believe in marriage, too, so thats really nice!

[saiyouri]

[terrapin]

Homophobia is SO gay.

[ecco]

[terrapin]

[Somalina]

This seemed relevant, so excuse me for wandering slightly off the topic of Gay Civil Rights in America ^^;;

Pope Benedict XVI has recently argued against the Equality Bill which had previously been proposed to allow women to take up certain roles within the Catholic Church, and also defended same-sex couples in their right to adopt children from Church-run orphanages and institues.

His ground for arguing against the Bill was because apparently it repressed Catholic Christians from practicing their religious beliefs.

Prioritising someone's religious beliefs over another persons human/civil liberties is apparently justified.
Nice world we live in, hmm?

[Chaomiles]

I know a gay guy, and his cool :3 I like him, cause he helps me a lot

[gothicMana9]

oh well, i totally understand your point but..some other religions do talk about not allowing gayness, but u know what. it's just beliefs, it's a fact u learn,but u don't have to follow.
i think it's best to give everyone their freedom, i mean, yes it might be bad in some opinions but if u love that person, u can't help it ^.^ , i want all lovers to be together, either it was a straight relationship or a gay relationship.

have pride in showing the popele who u love and be flexible to others' opinions.....


some poeple find hurting others amusing.........

[gothicMana9]

[ecco]

im totally with you mana :3


i also think that because its in some peoples religions to be against homosexuality, that they shouldnt be treated badly for feeling that way about it. only if they go out of their way to be horrible about gay/bi people. cos then theyre discriminating, rather than just having a negative view on it... thats when homophobia isnt ok.

[Kliz]

Woah, clicked the topic cause I thought it was the opposite of what it turned out to be. lol, I'm relieved. =P

Eh, it's just another area people want to control other's lifestyles. I disagree and think it's illogical, but I also realize neither "side" is completely innocent either.

Overall, I just leave it alone. All I have control over is myself, if the constitution gets changed I would not move out of the USA because the freedom we have here is still the one nation I would feel most comfortable in. =/ And I've seriously considered moving to a different country in the past, so that's a serious statement for me.

But the future is unpredictable..

I guess I'm not gonna worry about extremists until they start influencing my personal life... That sounds pretty bad, I know. But arguing and complaining about/with them is obviously not going to make them change, so... I don't worry too much about it.

But I also have had very few friends that admitted to being gay to me. And that's fine, I don't want to that about my friends doing the nasty. LOL

Gays have been here as long as straights and it will be that way forever.

I just like to stay out of fights, I guess. xD
I will be there when it's an issue, but I don't see it happening anytime in the next 5 years. The same fight and hate was going on long before I was born and it will keep going on as long as there is hate in the world.

[Sailor_Gunner_Cat]

On the Christianity issue, many churches under the big umbrella of Christianity pick and chose what we want to believe in the bible which causes huge problems.
We're supposed to take things from the New Testament, that tells us to love one another as brothers and sister's in Christ, no matter what they've done or how they chose to live. It also says that there is only one requirement to get into Heaven no matter what you have done. Which is excepting Christ as your lord and savior and whatnot.
But many denominations pick and chose what to believe. The old testament basically considers everything a sin. And what they base the dislike for gays on is an old testament story about one of Noah's sons getting drunk and sleeping with his dad. Which I would see the incest as a bigger problem then anything there but that's just me. Noah's son was cast out an punished.

Really I don't think it's a big deal, it's like anything else. Ignorance breeds evil and hatred. Like many things that change in society I honestly think it's the adjustment to something new that society is not readily able to accept. As a species we really take a long time to adapt. Although all of this was acceptable in Roman times, we as a species have regressed since then and are still slowly working to get where we where as a culture. I think it's just going to take the next few generations to move through and the old to die out before the problem is solved and people to relax about the issue. Everything has it's season.