Furry Hate - I don't get it

[Chu]

It seems like the trend on the internet lately is to bash furries, but I don't understand. Lollies don't get nearly that amount of hate. Any idea as to why the bashing is so prominent?


Just in case some people don't know the terminology, furries are people who have a love for anthropomorphic figures. While some furries (namely hardcore ones) do have... sexual interest in the fandom, most just like how human-like characters look with ears and tails and such. Like, someone who uses animal wings, ears, tails, etc. on their avatar a lot.

Lollies are basically the same as furries, but their interests are in children. The same thing applies with there being the hardcore and the moderate.


For the record, I'm personally not interested in either of these. And morally, I don't care one way or another. Live and let live - don't try to dictate people's lives. I'm just not understanding the IMMENSE furry hate when morally, lollies should be offending more people.

[Atraea]

I think a lot of it comes from the idea that some of them can be very...shrill. Most are very cool people, I know a few here and campus and they've got a great sense of humor about it (they wear their tails to class. It's adorable).

But then there are the ones that get trolled and fly off the handle, making them all the easier to exploit and make fun of. Basically the only furry stereotypes people know about are the ones that are brought to people's attention the most. Those just happen to be the perverted and the shrill.

It doesn't help that the reason some of the perverted ones are brought into the limelight is because of the childhood memories they tend to warp. Remember Gadget? From Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers? They LOVE her. Or Pete's wife? From Goof Troop? Or Roxanne from the Goofy Movie? Mrs. Frisby? from the The Secrets of Nimh? Her and Jonathan are fan favorites. Or that one bar scene in Great Mouse Detective (if you've seen the movie you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about)? And sadly, a good chunk of the Sonic fandom. My god, the sonic fandom.


Yeah, a lot of these fall under "WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN...!"

And oh man. I have seen.

And as far as lollies go, they're starting to pick up on that. A lot of Lolicon is being confiscated by cops lately, and you can actually get jail time for it. Which is sad, in its own way, because at it's very core, it's lines on paper. No child was exploited to make those comics, which is the legal definition of child pornography. A child has to have been exploited for that purpose. If they're gonna start takin' that stuff up, they might as well take up furry porn too, because if they're gonna interpret it that way, then it's bestiality.


I don't have a vested interest in either of these things either, nor do I agree with them, but I agree that a lot of the furry hate is unfounded (I know people that hate furries the way conservatives hate hippies), considering how many I've met in real life. They're really nice people, and have a sense of humor about it. They say "yiff in hell furfag" a whole lot, and that's practically a slur.

[Tianfu]

I don't get it either. Yes, the furry fandom, like every other group, has its individuals that make you want to roll your eyes. They make FURRIES roll their eyes. As a geek, I tend to spend time around fans of many different geek genres. And I'll tell you, the average yaoi fan is FAR more annoying than the average furry. And the average comic book fanboy has less social skills.

And yes, since the majority of furries are adults, there is an adult side to the fandom. And a lot of it would make Dr. Ruth blush. But I've seen just as bad, if not worse, in Japanese hentai. Comic book and scifi geeks tend to be a little tamer, but there's sex being written and drawn there, too. My philosophy is: if you don't like it, don't look. It's not like it's hard to avoid.

Even the tame art does usually have a certain sensuality to it. That is because people subconsiously attribute sensuality to animals. A woman is a chick, or foxy, or a sex kitten. A hot older woman is a cougar. And a lot of those previously mentioned cartoon characters were MEANT to look sexy. They were drawn with curves, to seem attractive to both the other characters AND the viewer. The cabaret singer from The Great Mouse Detective was modeled after the REAL cabaret singer who voiced her. Of COURSE she was gonna be sexy. And I bet very few people could look at how they drew Fifi LeFume from Looney Toons and not admit that she is attractive. (Although, I admit that some furries focus on weird characters. I've never really considered Mrs. Brisby to be a sex symbol.)

[Atraea]

I love the Great Mouse Detective so damn much


Oh good LORD yaoi fans. I was one of them, back in the day. I'll read some Goku/Vegeta if I'm feeling nostalgic, some are are acutally very good. But for the most part...meh. People get their panties in a bunch over people that probably wouldn't be bangin' each other in the first place.

[Overlord Branny]

I'm not really going to go in detail..

But honestly I can't stand Furries but I try not to hate.
The main reason is because they usually act and come off really weird and awkward to be around.

If you mean furry art...I don't mind that much, as long as it doesn't get posted alot. They can stay on their own site.

RL furries I hate...they're usually gross and smell...and they do nasty things in their furry suits.

Once you see a fursuited man have sex with another....you aren't the same afterwards..

Anyways...

[ecco]

well if you think about it in the most offensive ways possible: lollies = paedophilia, furry = bestiality.

both of which are pretty taboo & offensive... theres not much you could say to make either seem worse than the other when you bring it to that level.


but for what furry REALLY is, ie NOT people who want to have sex with animals, but just like anthro characters and possibely dressing as animals, i really have no idea why there is so much hate.

i think partly its cos theyre such a minority, therefore an easy target. also, and i expect this goes for many fandoms, there are those amongst them that make it far too easy for trolls. if you keep feeding the troll.... dont expect it to leave you alone.

[Atraea]

[ecco]

well thats the thing, its very difficult to make a distinction because for some its about what they like to draw - think about disney's Robin Hood - some people just like drawing part human part animal things. other people like to dress as an animal... and its only a fraction of these people that actually consider themselves a "furry" in the sense that they have a character representing themselves, a "fursona" or something like that. so is a furry someone with a fursona that they draw & dress up as, or is a furry anyone that likes drawing furs or wearing fursuits of any kind?


tbh, i dont even care hahaha. they are all just doing something they enjoy, the hate of it is beyond me. but like i said, i think the problem is theyre an easy target, and certain people in the fandom draw the attention of internet trolls who get a kick out of winding them up via HATEEEE.


Haters gonna hate. lets remember that. XD

[Chu]

@Atraea: I don't remember any of those things, sorry. XDD Goof Troop, a bit, but no others.

And the thing about the cops is kinda ridiculous, but totally expected. That type of thing will likely continue for a while.


@Tianfu: Cartoons, as innocent as they began, just beg to be exploited by those fandoms all the time. They're just so easy to manipulate.


@Branny: I've... never encountered a real-life furry, so I can't say. o-0 The closest is one of those typical wanna-be goth girls that goes "nyan" all the time and does the caramelldansen dance. *gag*


@ecco: Yeah, come to think of it people are extremists with every type of fetish/orientation.

[Atraea]

@ Ecco: YOU ARE A LIAR AND FURRY SYMPATHIZER AND DESERVED OF INTERNET SCORN.

And everyone know, when it comes to Internet scorn, Hell hath no fury like it. Fact.

@Chu: That wasn't even a comprehensive list, I've seen more.

Like Duck Tales. Whoo-oo. WHOO-OO INDEED.

[ecco]

oh, im totally a furry sympathiser. i would never consider myself a furry, but there is something appealing about the idea of dressing up as an animal and running about like it XD

[Nova]

I just don't understand what can happen in a persons life to make it so that they have to have some sort of animalistic element on themselves or a partner in order to feel turned on.
Sure, I think animal ears are pretty cool, but I doesn't turn me on.
And if I saw someone running around with cat ears or bat wings, I would start to think "that must be darn impractical" and "Oh my god is she that desperate for attention.

What is it about it that turns people on? Is it the element of something different, or of something raw and instinctive?
I think that's part of what bugs me about furries too.
Has any of them taken the time to sit down and think about what it REALLY is they like?
Is it the cat ears as in, ears of a cat, or is it what they represent? And are there in that case less bestiality-like ways to get the same thrill?

To me, "furry" seems like it's some sort of trendy label teens who watch too much anime and hang out on gaiaonline too much slap on themselves in order not to have to confront themselves about what's REALLY going on in the good ol' brain.

[Chu]

@Nova: That's actually a common misconception about furries. Most (in my experience) don't get turned on by such things; they just admire it much like they'd admire art or music.

I can't really speak on the behalf of people who are aroused by that type of thing, but my guess would be that it's something exotic and, like you said, raw. Think of those sex symbols that people describe as having "eyes that can see directly into your soul." It's something powerful.

But yes, the little obsession with cat ears and going "nyan" is mostly teenage hype. Just an attempt to seem cute and get attention along the way. They describe it as being unique.

[ecco]

there is no sense in questioning why a small fraction of the furry community has a sexual fetish towards the animal costumes, its about as pointless as asking why some people get thrills out of being spanked, bitten or wearing handcuffs in bed.

the point is, why does it matter? why does anyone care? people are just afraid of what they dont understand. live and let live.

and theres nothing "bestiality-like" about the furry fetish side of things, unless you count the definition which is "The quality or condition of being an animal or like an animal. "

at the end of the day, its 2 people having consensual sex. the situation would be no different without the costumes on.

[Nova]

Well, I still just don't get what the big whoop is.

I think cats are a fantastic species, and I do feel a little bummed that I had to be a humar instead of a cat sometimes, but...
I don't lay awake at night wishing I had a tail or pointy ears, and I don't see why others do either.

I'm usually pretty good at seeing things from other peoples point of view, but this is far beyond my grasp.
Why is is so important for someone to look and feel like an animal?
Why is it so important to them to let the rest of us know that they'd rather fantazise about being a fox that facing their HUMAN-problems and solve them? Life goes on, I don't see what being sad you're not a dog is useful for. Life is about moving on, dealing with things, and accepting ones peresnt as it is, not being emoemo over something there's no possible way of achieving (unless you're gonna get reincarnated)

I'm sorry if that makes me seem like a douche, but I just. Don't. Get. It.