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 PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:11 pm Reply with quote        
Sweat How to talk about this without sounding like a complete pervert?

Well I have always had an interest in Hentai. More from an artistic viewpoint than a sexual one. It always interested me, particularly the way bodys interact together and the emotional charges given to the characters. Unfortunately I have had little chance to experiment in this particular field because there are few places that I can publish and accept GOOD feedback on it. >.<

Now I can understand the need to keep it from children. And I can even understand how some people may find it offencive particularly some of the more disgusting things even I wont touch. But I really dont see why everyone views it as such a tasteless artform.

What exactly is so tasteless with expressing your sexual side?
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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:01 pm Reply with quote        
Hentai often deals with neiches in the sexual market which can't be done with live action simply because it would be cruel to the actors or just isn't physically possible. Also like all porn it's hoplessly sexist in it's portrayal of both women and men.

Though i actually find the sex in alot of hentai (and porn for that matter) helarious for it's inaccuracies and the noises the actors make. xD

However, if you want to experiment with portraying animated sex go for it! There are thousands of people on the web doing it independantly allready and if you can make yourself a neich in the market they'll likely be able to offer you help. As far as advice goes you may want to approach a collective site such a slipshine or one of the many "erotic" scanlation collectives about asking their many artists/members to critique your work since they're all sucessful in the feild of comic book porno (even if they don't draw it themselves) and most of them have webcomics of various types aswell (for slipshine atleast).

But then it depends on what sexuality you wish to portray who you go too. Either way i'm kinda curious on what your produceing. :P

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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:03 pm Reply with quote        
I was refering more to images rather than animetion but its basically the same thing I guess.

I've never been really fond of live action porn it just doesnt interest me at all for one reason or another. I think its because its to literal.

;>__> I wonder how far my shyness will get me in a place like Slipshine. But its worth a try I guess. I have found some yaoi art posting sites much like sheezy art and devart recently. I'm just not familiar enough with Yaoi and male bodys yet. -starts to compose Light&L Yaoi in my head- ;>__> I wonder if they allow strait art as well. I should look into your posting guidelines now that I think about it.

xD are you curious about what types of hentai I have been making or in seeing the actual image themselves?

God I hope I dont get yelled at for this topic ;>__>
Please dont hurt me Cat
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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:15 pm Reply with quote        
xD

Both actually.

And ahh i missinterpreted you. Becuase to me hentai moves, and manga doesn't. It's just explicit manga if it's porno. But yeah, Biblios Eros and Liquid Passion are yaoi manga scanlators (they specialise in the more explicit stuff too), Hochuuami, So Da Sexy, Forever More (specialises in manga with mind blowingly beautiful artwork but i think they're dissbanded) are some yaoi scanlators you might try.

For the het and yuri group the only "collective" so to speak i can think of slipshine and they do all their own artwork so they're probably better to aproach. But most of them are more cartoony in style then realistic. Apparently Josh Lesnik (who runs Slipshine, Doctor Voluptua and Girly (which is an awsome webcomic)) is really nice, and there is afew dozen differant artists in the collective (not all male either) so you might find atleast one person willing to help. :3

Were you looking at the more realistic route or the catoony feel?

And yeah i hope cat doesn't eat us. xD;;

EDIT: But then we have the Furry Fandom thread and the 18+ thread so we shouldn't be stabbed too hard compared to that. xD

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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:29 pm Reply with quote        
Laugh Heyy is naughtyer than I thought!


There is very little that I am not willing to try. I'm extremely open minding about almost everything. Granted I dont see ANYTHING interesting in nasty potty fetish stuff. Its not for me to judge others tastes.

I've gotten I think to a point where I want to broaden my art into other areas and experiment with other things.

If nothing else I now have some nice new mangas to read xD

Why do I find it so irritateing that people are shocked that I as a woman want to draw this sort of thing?
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 PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:46 pm Reply with quote        
xD Anyone who doesn't know i'm very open talking about my sexuality and sex in general, doesn't know me well. ;D

People are stupid, i'm not at all suprised that you want to draw and get involved in the scene, there are lots of women allready involved and the market of women that read the stuff is immense!

It's just not as socially acceptable for women to talk about that kind of stuff. I mean for men it's weird if you don't talk about masturbating and porn, but for women it's shocking (pfft) if you do. Which is stupid because i've only met one women over the age of 18 in my entire life (that i know of) that doesn't masturbate. *shrugs*

Yeaaaah, scat, guro/snuff and beastiality just freak me the hell out and i stay faaaar faaaaar away.

But yeah, i know dozens of scanlation sites so if you need help with anything drop me a line. : )

I wish you luck improving your art and style. All i can say is do as much anatomy study as you can, since it's especially important if your drawing nudes. Alot of manga artists (in particular) forget that and it's really detrimental to their work.

I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. : )

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 PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:03 am Reply with quote        
I don't see a problem with this topic as long as you don't post any of that content. :3

Anyway, even though I'm really not fond of hentai, yaoi, yuri, or real porn, I think it's awesome that you're getting into that type of thing, considering you're into the artistic aspect rather than the, well, nasty ones.

I can't give you any advice though. DX Sorry.


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 PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:44 pm Reply with quote        
i think its both art and pervertness... it all depends on what kind your reading/watching! i'm a big hentai fan and well.. i've always been a pervert

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 PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:16 pm Reply with quote        

Its perversion and I no longer have interest in it for sexual reasons. I got over that fad fast.

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 PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:46 pm Reply with quote        

For me, I never picked up interest in it.
I just avoided it.


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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:14 am Reply with quote        

It got boring real fast.

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:19 am Reply with quote        
Yay for thread replies that don't read anything but the title line... >__>;;

*sarcasm*

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:26 am Reply with quote        

Fraulein, I'm expanding on what I already said, ja.

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:44 am Reply with quote        
I was actually refering to the last four posts back towards chu's last post.

Your original post didn't respond to the first post either which was about the industry and hentai as an art form. And why people find it tasteless as opposed to a straight yes or no answer that most people have given (yourself included).

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:28 am Reply with quote        

Fine then. I find it tasteless, another useless form of pleasure for sick and twisted human beings.

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