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Global Warming or Natural Cycle???
Global Warming
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 PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:04 am Reply with quote        
ya say that, but if water levels rise my town and nearest city and villages will all end up underwater Sad my area is basically at sea level lol o3o;
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 PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:58 pm Reply with quote        
I have to say, I think that the cooling and warming up of earth is quite natural. Or at least I think so. However, I think that us humans are doing quite a job making the earth warmer than it should be (at the time). Pollution, too much garbage, and battery waste are probably only a few things. I hope that the Earth is just acting up a bit, that's all. Though it was actually quite cold last night. I think only the last two years were warmer. Now it's not that warm anymore. Or so I think. Or so I hope. Haha...
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:39 pm Reply with quote        
Anyone who dismisses the reality of global warming is in denial and an idiot. Open your eyes!

Lets see, erratic weather...

species extinction at a faster rate than ever before...

spread of tropical diseases at an alarming rate.....

island countries in the pacific being flooded and unlivable, and consequently whole nations having to be rehomed.....

appearance of certain heat loving insects in remote typically cold areas....

pack ice not forming so polar bears are starving.....

reefs being slowly cooked and dying....

severe droughts...

populations of phytoplankton dying....

penguins dying from being in cold, soaking rain, instead of snow....


The list goes on. Yes the world has heated up before, but the rate at which it IS heating up now is staggering.

Don't just believe everything like a sheep. Look and find for yourself. Open your eyes and see what is right in front of you.
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 PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:52 pm Reply with quote        
My mum made a really good point today - even if you believe that the global warming is all a natural cycle, surely we should try to stop it anyway, because the fact of the matter is wether we are the cause of it or not, we are still going to end up in an unhospitable world. So we should act to stop it regardless of its cause.

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 PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:42 pm Reply with quote        
I think its natural. i mean it isn't GLOBAL warming, my area is having more snow then its had since the 1950's.

the Earth's axis could be shifting, and the ice caps are getting more heat, but other areas of the Earth are getting colder.

So it could be a natural shift in our axis causing the wierd temperatures.

i mean when you get 6 feet of snowfall in less then a week, thats NOT warming.

If anything artificial, it could be nuclear or normal power plants throwing off the magnetic field of the Earth causing the shift in our axis, but there is not enough proof of that(if any)

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 PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:55 am Reply with quote        
Well, it's not global warming anymore, that changed the name since some people loved the idea of having warmer winter (who knows what dumb people could do: they could pollute even more, hoping they'll get no more snow to shovel ever again... I know some people stupid enough to think that Laugh )

Though this year's weird winter was supposedly caused by El Nino, again, back after 12 years (last time it cames it destroyed many huge power lines and all in storm)... Where I live we use to have cold january and february, from -12 to -20 C (and sometime one or two -30 or -35C) with the last week of december and the first ones of january very snowy.

But this year we barely had snow (at least barely yet: we use to get snowstorms around St patrick's day in march...) and it rarely went under -26C. Plus yesterday, we had a +3C Shocked Snow was melting and all, water in the streets, it kind of shocked and scared me... But at the same time it's funny: less snow for the south of Canada, but even more for the usually warmed USA and Europe...

-> another fact about global warming: the sahara was once more like a relatively grassy field, long before people started to use metal (I forgot the exact estimated dates Laugh ) but became more dry long before ancient Rome. Then it definitively became a desert over the centuries...

As for the magnetic pole, I read somewhere the were switching naturally after many many years, or so scientists believe. The Noth pole has already moved a lot since humans discovered it. I'm curious why though, I'll try to read more on the matter Jab


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 PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:01 pm Reply with quote        
I personally do not believe in global warming. (Also, wouldn't my opinion be a little contrary to most considering that global warming seems to be the big thing these days? Would that make me a sheep?)
It all kind of started after the Climatic Research Unit got hacked. It revealed a number of emails sent from scientists working there that they were trying to withhold information from the public, which goes against the Freedom of Information Act. I don't know if those emails had been tampered with or not but it definitely does raise suspicions about the whole thing.
Also, the climate changes all the time. There was a warm period back in the medieval ages and a small ice age some centuries later. Global warming might be happening, but would that be a bad thing? The warm periods in history have also been some of the happier ones. They've also been more stable. The heating of the polar regions evens out the overall temperature. Lower temperature differences mean that storms wouldn't be as strong. That'd be a good thing, right? I would not like another storm like Katrina.
Just my opinion. Please don't attack me. 8D
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 PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:07 pm Reply with quote        
Honey we wont attack you. You are entitled to your opinion.

I have just seen rapid changes in my time here. Very rapid.

If you choose not to believe it then that is up to you.

I would however urge you to look at the thing from all sides before you can make a stand.
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 PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:11 am Reply with quote        
Ha, we talked about the last time I had Science class. My teacher was very informative.

He, and my class, agree that the planet's temperature rise is caused by global warming. After just researching it not (how much of a nerd am I XD) I found out that the earth just might be heading towards the sun! Look it up on Wikipedia ... (too lazy to put up the pic)

Although, my teacher heard that some scientists suspect that if the Earth moves, even a centimetre closer/farther away from the sun, Earth might go flying off into space.

I don't know. I thing the whole warming thing is human pollution into the atmosphere.
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 PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:41 am Reply with quote        
My belief: altered natural cycle.

Industry is not doing anything that wouldn't happen on its own. This little ball of mud is still coming out of the last ice age - it is warming up. However, with that said, the cycle has been accelerated by tens of thousands of years over the last hundred and fifty. Glaciers that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years are melting, pack ice is disappearing in state sized swaths - a chunk bigger than Rhode Island floated out to sea into the Antarctic current a few years back. Hurricanes are becoming steadily stronger over the Atlantic due to warmer gulf waters. (No, none of this is due to an axial tilt - Polaris is still the pole star and compasses still work, go check it yourself, this is at home proof). The worst part is, no one really knows what the full effects will be. Something like "The Day After Tomorrow" could happen (at a rate of a couple thousand years, not three days) or we could be headed to the next hothouse stage with virtually no ice anywhere on Earth. Provided humanity doesn't melt the planet into glowing black glass first. Or Yellowstone go up and send the world into an ice age as a result of a very bad day for anyone living. In the end, Earth and the rest of the universe isn't going to care. On the other hand, we don't exactly have a lot of other places to live, so either NASA needs more funding for space stations and colonies (as opposed to nearly being shut down) or changes need to be made here. Maybe both.

@Skunk: With current calculations, yes, it is expected that the Earth will fall into Sol's gravity and burn up, but we have a couple of billion years at least. The rate may actually be slow enough that Sol goes red giant first (and still incinerates the Earth). Fortunately the entire system will be pulled into a local black hole a few billion years after that, which will in turn get swallowed by the one at the center of the milky way before heat death could occur. After that, what happens is anyone's guess really. Of course the universe could pull itself apart next week and avoid the entirely of it, but hey, we don't know. As far as flying into space if its orbit deviates a centimeter? It deviates all the time apparently (see hothouse and snowball earth theories). So I somehow doubt we will be coasting past/into Jupiter if there is a wobble.

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