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 PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:44 pm Reply with quote        
So I just watched a story on CBC news about a girl dealt with for sexting with intent to humiliate another girl. Specifically, this girl, aged 17, apparently can't distinguish between a boy having two girlfriends at the same time and the reality of her boyfriend having broken up with his last, his EX-girlfriend for her. Said ex was 16, but the girlfriends, being the apparent bitch she was, decided to instead obtain some lewd pictures of the ex, usually naked etc., and send those pictures to her friend, to the boyfriend, to the ex, etc. with the intent to humiliate, to bully.

She got caught and fell victim to a bit of rules lawyering. Rules Lawyering that I heartily approve of, to help crack down on the issue of bullying. See, these were explicit pictures of a 16-year-old, which technically makes it distributing child porn. Which in turn leads to much worse consequences for the bully. I heartily approve, since it might just help stop bullying. A bit.

The defense argues that the child porn laws were not created for this kind of situation, but I feel that the law as it is has been broken, so the defendent is guilty. Defense also argues that this is too big and heavy a hammer to be used against the issue of bullying, but I disagree. No hammer is too big for bullying. Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped.

What do you think?

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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:06 am Reply with quote        
I'm with you, Kath. I heartily disapprove of bullying of any sort, and the rules are there for a reason.

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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:17 pm Reply with quote        
I also despise bullying- and that includes bullying the bully. I was often bullied as a child both online and offline, and one time, my cousin witnessed the online bullying...He pulled me off the computer and got his friends to help him harass her for bullying me. At first I was happy my cousin cared so much, but afterwards, I felt horrible because she was so pained by the bullying of the older kids (my cousin and his friends). The look on her face when I saw her at school the next day was sad. In the end, I think it made things worse even if she did leave me alone afterwards.

Point blank, bullying is never ever okay. You don't sends nude pictures of a girl to others to humiliate them just because your boyfriend used to date her and you're dumb enough to not realize 'used to' was the operative term. You don't put kids in garbage cans just because you're older, and you don't throw basketballs at their heads just because you're bigger.

Seriously, whatever happened to 'treat others the way you want to be treated'? :c

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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:07 pm Reply with quote        
I agree that she should be significantly punished for bullying. Bullying is never good and always painful. But I do worry about the rules lawyering it up from bullying charges to distributing child porn charges.

The law rarely distinguishes between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. It is not uncommon for Jr. & Sr. High School students who are dating and "Madly in love with each other" to send each other nudie pics of themselves for fun and shock value. There is usually no intention to humiliate or embarrass the other person. It isn't smart. It isn't proper. It isn't good long term thinking. But should the couple both be put on the Sexual criminal lists for the rest of their lives? In the U.S., being on those lists literally destroys any chance of having a decent life. And I mean literally, not figuratively. And once you are on that list, you never get off of it.

According to the law, The teenager sending the pictures is guilty of distributing child porn even if it is of themselves. If the other person does not immediately inform the authorities and delete the pictures, they are guilty of possessing child porn. Any angry parent that see's those pictures may well push for child porn charges in order to break the couple up or a paranoid authority figure that see's them might make the charges just to make sure they are protecting themselves legally.

I agree that girl should be charged harshly for bullying under any and all bullying laws but changing the charges from bullying to anything else sets a dangerous precedence.
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 PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:25 pm Reply with quote        
Bullying is a terrible thing, but it is something that is always around. No level of punishment could ever be set for across the board. So to say it is to harsh for "bullying" is ridiculous. It wasn't name calling, it wasn't isolating her, or something else of the sort, which needs a whole different form of attention, it was the distribution of child pornography, which by definition is without legal consent. Those are images that will never truly go away, and which were personal. As well as sexual shaming, in a time, and culture where that can be devastating. The way she feels about herself, and acts towards others will always be different from this point on, and will never go back to the way it was.
As well as the way others treat her. The pictures were distributed, and they were of a minor in a compromising situation, and so should be punished as such. While some may argue that she took them herself, and allowed for the situation to occur, which is an argument in these controversies always, she is a minor, and is incapable of making that decision to distribute them, which is why child pornography is illegal. Although in a lot of areas, you can be charged for the possession/distribution of child pornography of yourself.

I hope that the bully is taken care of because it is more than just bullying, it is a sexual crime. And should be dealt with accordingly, there are laws in place for a reason, to protect minors, the context should not change the law.
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