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 PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:53 pm Reply with quote        
We've all encountered them...heard the horror stories...winced collectively at the craptasticness...(See Twilight...or My Immortal. Which I have the link to, if anyone's interested.)

Now I want to know what YOU feel makes a...dare I say it...Mary-Sue.
I also want to know if you've ever come across a tolerable Mary-Sue...or, even just as well-written one...and if you feel there's exceptions to the disease.

Lemme know, gang.

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 PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:05 pm Reply with quote        
Fuck Mary Sues in the ass.

Oh wait, that was a little graphic. What I mean to say is: forcefully yank out their entrails, shove them down their throats and crush their skulls.

Er... Ponies and rainbows.


I'm hypersensitive to Mary Sues so I probably judge them and their writers a bit too harshly. I don't really "look" for them, but the top giveaways for Mary Sues/Gary Stus are:
-Universally loved (and the haters are just that: haters)
-Multi-lingual/talented through no effort of their own
-Has some tragic past that doesn't affect them in the least, though the author suggests otherwise
-Incites rage whenever I think about them


RAAAAAEEEG.


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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:17 am Reply with quote        
I think I may have struck a nerve...^^;;

XD Punch me later?

Uhm. I totally understand your reasoning and agree with it...

But.

I want some more discussion DX

What does it take to get people in here?

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I will not bow, I will not break
I will shut the world away
I will not fall, I will not fade
I will take your breath away
...and kill threads.

Kupsy wrote:
I'm vegetarian, I'd be a crap zombie.
...
Fear the wrath of the vegetarian zombie!! It will invade your vegetable gardens and turn all the cabbages into zombie vegetables! >:o
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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:24 am Reply with quote        
I say drop cookies along a trail leading to the thread. It should get you some people. *adds random traps around to catch whoever passes by*

I pretty much agree with Chu about what makes a Mary-Sue.
And the only antidote I know is to burn them, than write better characters, or at least more realistic ones. A lot of main characters are somewhat Sue-ish if you take them out of their context (especially fantasy characters). Now, when you add a potent past and a corresponding setting (but around the character and inside his head), it normally takes out most of the Sue.

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 PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:00 pm Reply with quote        
GANG!

Okay, there is this guy... in our group of friends who plays DnD. He keeps going on about his character's abilities and asks us what our character's abilities are.

I'm an assassin... I have only the basic assassin skills (i.e. good with poisons, stealth and exotic weapons [battle fans, so on and so forth... ])

I see his list compared to mine and I think he's over-powered. Even the DM says he's too strong. He's trying to do all of this stuff (i.e. create weapons for every person AND be the best battler in the group).

This is a Mary Sue in DnD...

IT GOES EVERYWHERE!!!

They are no tolerable, just fun to laugh at...

Of course, this is my opinion... XP

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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:53 pm Reply with quote        
@Maeve: Ooooh, that sounds like an epic idea >D *to the kitchin!!!*
Yeah...imagine taking a character from DBZ and putting them in Pokemon...that would be an uber!Sue.


@Syd: xD
That sounds an awful lot like that guy from my lunch table in 12 that you don't like's character. Yanno, the one that's killed two of the gods? Yeah. Him.

Let's see...I shall try to find one of the stories in which I determined the character to be a (this is an oxymoron, people...) a well-written Sue.

...this could take a while. There's too many Sues on ff.n DX

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I will not bow, I will not break
I will shut the world away
I will not fall, I will not fade
I will take your breath away
...and kill threads.

Kupsy wrote:
I'm vegetarian, I'd be a crap zombie.
...
Fear the wrath of the vegetarian zombie!! It will invade your vegetable gardens and turn all the cabbages into zombie vegetables! >:o
Syd-Cymbaline



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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:13 pm Reply with quote        
In 12 that I don't like?

But since he DID kill two gods... he does sound like a Mary Sue... XP

*patpats Seti*

Seti- Wtc are you doing?!

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Misa:"I can't imagine a world without Light!"
L: "Yes, that would be dark."


"Ramoraparu did you steal my kills? I BELIEVE YOU DID!"
~Nobunaga (Travis - 4playerpodcast)
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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:37 pm Reply with quote        
I'm going to be de-powering his character quite a bit. I've already decided that, since I found his sheet. Make him choose between his abilities.

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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:29 pm Reply with quote        
Yeah, when he was spouting out his list of abilities, I was thinking to myself 'Keyla, you miiiiight... wanna de-power him' XP...

But I'm glad that you are! ^^

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Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting
~John Russell


Misa:"I can't imagine a world without Light!"
L: "Yes, that would be dark."


"Ramoraparu did you steal my kills? I BELIEVE YOU DID!"
~Nobunaga (Travis - 4playerpodcast)
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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:03 pm Reply with quote        
For example: Elemental swords=OUT

Because you could make an entire prestige class out of that SINGLE ability.

I will go do research on Red Mages ala FF, and see what I can come up with using that list.

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 PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:10 pm Reply with quote        
Ah, try ff wiki... that's the best thing I can think of... (kinda dead right now, just did a bunch of hw in an hour... XP)

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Sanity calms, but madness is more interesting
~John Russell


Misa:"I can't imagine a world without Light!"
L: "Yes, that would be dark."


"Ramoraparu did you steal my kills? I BELIEVE YOU DID!"
~Nobunaga (Travis - 4playerpodcast)
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